Suggestions for improving underwaters

What’s the “best” or preferred way to improve my underwaters? I can do the requirements for the PAST but they don’t come easy to me. 6-8 strokes and probably 1:15-1:20 to complete. I’ve seen that I should be able to do them on a 1:30 interval which I doubt I could sustain. No for long at least. What can I do to improve and progress towards being about to do them more easily?

Should I do breath holds throughout the day following charts?
Just more reps? I know I’m not in the pool often enough currently.
Could it just be mental/confidence? I do feel a little panicked so I’m sure that’s a factor
 

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Could be a myriad of things- your form, breath hold ability, mental block. If you have the ability, post your underwater form.

Is it 6 strokes or 8 strokes? It's a big difference. 6 strokes is pretty good. 8 is likely too many. Also 1:15-120 sounds excessive. Most do the underwater portion between :30-:35 seconds and are back at the wall between :55 and 1:05.
 
Could be a myriad of things- your form, breath hold ability, mental block. If you have the ability, post your underwater form.

Is it 6 strokes or 8 strokes? It's a big difference. 6 strokes is pretty good. 8 is likely too many. Also 1:15-120 sounds excessive. Most do the underwater portion between :30-:35 seconds and are back at the wall between :55 and 1:05.
The 1:15-1:20 was for total time, underwater and surface swim back. I did some research online with some YouTube videos looking at form more and think I’m closer to 1:00-1:05 now with 6 strokes, maybe a half stroke at the end. I will work on getting a video uploaded.

I guess ultimately where should I be at on my abilities with them? 5@1:30 interval or “all day” @ 1:30 interval?
And is the 50 underwater still a requirement for later? Saw conflicting stories about it.
Thank you!
 

Jay_Pew02

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When talking about UW’s, I love to reference this video:

A lot of things to note here, how streamline he maintains his body, how powerful and fluid his strokes are, and also how long he glides for. All these contributes to how many strokes/how long it takes to get to the other side. Even at my prime in the pipeline I was consistently at 7 strokes. I think it depends on your height a little bit too as to where you’re stroke count will be. Also recommend expediting the free style back, not sprinting, but moving with a sense of urgency to you can get the needed rest.

SW Predive standards include being able to do 8x 1:30 25m UW reps, and doing a 50m is also included. The 50 is also a dive school requirement.

Can’t speak to ANS water con requirements (got in before ANS was a thing) but if you can goal yourself at working up to 8x 1:30 25m, you are at a very good place: But get to wherever you can safely is the most important thing.
 
Old thread, but happy to share what i can.

breathe into your balls - when you take breath(s), your chest should not puff out. pretend your lungs are in your groin, and take your inhalations deep with the motion of drinking hot soup from a spool. you should be able to take in about 3 - 4 very efficient breaths which will last a lot longer than one big inhalation. do keep in mind; you'll need to be quick. cadre aren't going to wait all day for you to inhale when you're given the GO. this can also help you practice taking your breaths into your lungs, and not just air in your mouth (especially useful when buddy-breathing).

break your underwaters down - these are all about balancing your efforts against time and air. you should be able to get back to the wall in about a minute, start to finish once you become efficient. push off and see how far you can glide. do that for a while and work on gliding/dolphin kicking as far as you can before having to pull. then add in your first pull; then second, etc. i am not boasting, but i can travel the 25m in 4 strokes clothed in t-shirt UDTs and mask/i am not 6'. albeit, that is with a wall push. at minimum, i'm sure A&S will provide many opportunities to do underwaters without using the wall ;) you'll need to get creative. build your confidence first, then pull away from using the wall. mask and snorkel is no different; start with a short distance.

train like the real thing - wear clothes in the pool. sand t, UDTs, mask, booties, everything as you progress. learn how to manage the stress before the real thing.
 
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